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Nataku enjoys a little tumble.

So, wait, they actually did it? They actually made an Independence Day sequel? There are so many reasons why this is a stupid idea, but I guess the main reason is that it’s like making a sequel to Titanic, or The Day After Tomorrow, or whatever other disaster movie. Disaster films don’t get sequels because the story is over, it’s done! This sequel is also retconned from a narrative point of view because in the original ID4 they specifically state that the alien invaders are a nomadic race that move from planet to planet depleting resources until they move on. So is this a NEW alien race that wants to attack Earth, or was there more than one evil nomadic mothership wandering the galaxy? The trailer says “we knew they’re return”, implying there were even MORE of these same aliens out there! Either way, it’s got Jeff Goldblum in it so I’m there opening night!!!!!!

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  1. Leo says:

    …I bet Nataku feels kinda humiliated right now

    • clogboy says:

      If he has the pride of Monty Python’s Dark Knight, he’d have to lose his arms and legs before calling it a draw.

      • Kalrakh says:

        It’s more about Natakus Pride not Genchus, calling a kind of obvious loss a draw 😀

        • Leo says:

          Mh… I’m in a kind of haiku mood.

          No longer fishing
          Genchu gives back to rivers
          Sound effect is “WAT?”

          Genchu might have won
          But don’t tell the general
          He’d slice your arm off

          Eijiro watches
          As Nataku’s the loser
          Will he tell his dad?

          • I find this to be quite an excellent Haiku verse.

          • jwkovell says:

            I was going to say that a haiku should be about nature… But Genchu is a force of nature, so it works!

          • Leo says:

            YUP!

            Really, though, the nature thing is really more of a guideline, than a rule, meant to emulate the seasonal themes in Japanese haikus. My real problem is suggestive imagery. Then again, it’s hard to leave things to the reader’s interpretation with the comic page up there…

      • Flaming Squirrel says:

        Or another finger.

  2. Sunwu says:

    Genchu knew Nataku was trouble when he stepped in! Shame on him right now! Had Genchu run to places he’s never been! Now he’s falling in the cold hard stream! Oh, oh, trouble, trouble, trouble!!

  3. KencingFendoka says:

    We know who won, but Genchu was just throwing around ideas, and it seems Nataku will suceed in making waves.

    “The master of the Way of No Sword is forever with a sword even if he carries none and his opponent is armed.”

  4. Sunwu says:

    So Genchu should take the Daimyo’s son

  5. Flaming Squirrel says:

    In his prime? Judging by Nat’s gray hair, I’d say Genchu’s STILL younger than him.

    I didn’t know there was going to be an Independence Day sequel until IGN posted the trailer on Facebook yesterday. What ticks me off is that, apparently, Will Smith’s character is dead. Not from anything cool or dramatic, either. He just crashed a fighter plane on a test flight. Killing any Will Smith character offscreen is like… like putting a Genchu swordfight in the background!

    • leavescat says:

      There’s more than one way to no longer be in your prime. Genchu’s younger than Nataku unless I’m missing something, but while Nataku lost a finger, Genchu lost an arm. Basically it’s a Greil vs Black Knight situation, so Genchu should ditch the sword and find a giant battleaxe.

      • Flaming Squirrel says:

        He didn’t lose an arm. He’s been using both of them this whole time.

        • leavescat says:

          He didn’t literally lose it, but Hirotomo messed it up pretty well, to the point where he cannot wield a sword in that hand. He’s handled the switch better than Jamie Lannister, but he fights left-handed now. That’s why I mentioned the Greil situation; Greil had his sword-hand tendons severed, so he picked up a 2-handed axe, and later ends up fighting the Black Knight who was someone he dominated in his prime.

          • Genchu is definitely fighting with a handicap, which has been subtly hinted at, although not yet outright stated. On a side note, I love Awakening, but I’m intimidated about trying the older FE games because of the fear of permadeath!

          • leavescat says:

            Path of Radiance is one of the best if you were going to try. Permadeath can be problematic, but it’s basically just restart if anyone dies (Press X+B+Start on gamecube controller for a soft reset). I kinda like the linear style without a world map which makes it more difficult to level grind; it makes intelligently using your units for efficient exp gain more important. It’s still not difficult to become nigh-invincible in easy mode, so you shouldn’t have to restart much.

            And of course, if all else fails, you can solo the game with Ike. In hard mode.

          • No Name says:

            I always just restarted the battle if anyone died.
            Not exactly the… honest way of doing it, but who cares! Everyone lives.
            I also employed the strategy of gittin gud, which did wonders to improve the survivability of my characters (admittedly at the cost that I take more turns to complete a given battle, ’cause, y’know, caution).

    • Nataku’s not that much older than Genchu, but he’s just always had white hair I guess! His colors and costume design are actually based on a traditional Japanese wall scroll image I liked back in college. I wish I still knew where that image was!

      Also, I didn’t realize that’s how they wrote out Smith’s character. Will Smith has becomes very egocentric, if I understand correctly, so maybe he figured an Independence Day sequel was beneath him. One wonders!

      • Leo says:

        IIRC, they found his conditions unacceptable. He asked for 50 millions or so and that his son be featured in the movie as well.

        So yeah, not so much that ID4 was beneath him, but egocentric nonetheless.

      • Xinef says:

        Now that I think about it, Nataku looks quite similar to some depictions of Sun Wukong from Journey to the West.

        I wonder if he’d be offended if I started to call him “nineteen-fingered monkey”.

  6. Kid Chaos says:

    Don’t forget to recover your sword, Genchu! 😁

  7. Justin says:

    I’m just curious as to what happens next.

    About ID4:R; In nomadic societies, it isn’t uncommon for the tribes to break apart once they get too big. Put this in a space situation and it can make even more sense.

    As to them retconning the aliens, I didn’t think they actually said that. I’m going to have to rewatch the movie, but I thought they only defeated the mothership and the city destroyers. And hopefully there is either some diversity in the command structure of the aliens or the mothership was able to send a signal for the destroyers to land and get their forces on the ground.

    • They do specifically state in the original film that the aliens go from planet to planet consuming resources. It’s implied that the mothership is essentially their mobile home world. And it’s certainly possible that they kept fighting the aliens that survived in the crashed city destroyers, although the movie seems to imply that taking out the mothership left all the aliens totally vulnerable to conventional earth weapons.

  8. RazorD9 says:

    Tag ’em and bag ’em!

  9. Bladedwind says:

    Nataku: “COME BACK HERE I’LL BITE YA LEGS OFF!”

  10. Purphoros says:

    Genchu leveled up! Genchu can now use weapon type “Punching Bag”!

  11. Okay, take two: “Well, now the Wataro will know that Genchu survived.” I wonder if Ken will get the news, though…

  12. charles81 says:

    Nataku… YOU’RE SACKED!

  13. Hfar says:

    Genchu: master of using whatever the f***’s available as a weapon.

  14. Da'Zlein says:

    The twist is that Nataku can’t swim, so Genchu is gonna have to swim out there and drag him back to land if he wants to spare him

  15. Sam DunKley says:

    So…Nataku isn’t so hot vs judo/improvised weapons, or Genchu’s just that good? Serious question.

    • Nataku was definitely expecting a sword fight, and once he disarmed Genchu, he mentally assumed he’d won the fight, and wasn’t ready for Genchu’s improvised counter throw. Also, Genchu is just that good.

  16. dr pepper says:

    Makes sense. As a fisher, he’s not allowed to carry a sword so he got a lot more jujitsu practice.

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