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Nataku enjoys a little tumble.

So, wait, they actually did it? They actually made an Independence Day sequel? There are so many reasons why this is a stupid idea, but I guess the main reason is that it’s like making a sequel to Titanic, or The Day After Tomorrow, or whatever other disaster movie. Disaster films don’t get sequels because the story is over, it’s done! This sequel is also retconned from a narrative point of view because in the original ID4 they specifically state that the alien invaders are a nomadic race that move from planet to planet depleting resources until they move on. So is this a NEW alien race that wants to attack Earth, or was there more than one evil nomadic mothership wandering the galaxy? The trailer says “we knew they’re return”, implying there were even MORE of these same aliens out there! Either way, it’s got Jeff Goldblum in it so I’m there opening night!!!!!!

Published on December 14, 2015 by Alex Kolesar

Leo

…I bet Nataku feels kinda humiliated right now
- clogboy
  
  If he has the pride of Monty Python’s Dark Knight, he’d have to lose his arms and legs before calling it a draw.
  - Kalrakh
    
    It’s more about Natakus Pride not Genchus, calling a kind of obvious loss a draw 😀
    - Leo
      
      Mh… I’m in a kind of haiku mood.
      
      No longer fishing
      Genchu gives back to rivers
      Sound effect is “WAT?”
      
      Genchu might have won
      But don’t tell the general
      He’d slice your arm off
      
      Eijiro watches
      As Nataku’s the loser
      Will he tell his dad?
      - http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
        
        I find this to be quite an excellent Haiku verse.
      - jwkovell
        
        I was going to say that a haiku should be about nature… But Genchu is a force of nature, so it works!
      - Leo
        
        YUP!
        
        Really, though, the nature thing is really more of a guideline, than a rule, meant to emulate the seasonal themes in Japanese haikus. My real problem is suggestive imagery. Then again, it’s hard to leave things to the reader’s interpretation with the comic page up there…
  - Flaming Squirrel
    
    Or another finger.
Sunwu

Genchu knew Nataku was trouble when he stepped in! Shame on him right now! Had Genchu run to places he’s never been! Now he’s falling in the cold hard stream! Oh, oh, trouble, trouble, trouble!!
KencingFendoka

We know who won, but Genchu was just throwing around ideas, and it seems Nataku will suceed in making waves.

“The master of the Way of No Sword is forever with a sword even if he carries none and his opponent is armed.”
- Purphoros
  
  I thought he was throwing around Natakus…
  - KencingFendoka
    
    Yeah, Nataku does like to throw his weight around, so Genchu obliged him…besides throwing shuriken is going out of fashion.
Sunwu

So Genchu should take the Daimyo’s son
- http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
  
  Like just tuck Eijiro under his arm and go?
  - Kid Chaos
    
    Why not? 😜
    - leavescat
      
      It’d be hard to retrieve his sword and outrun Nataku with a squirming kid in one arm, unfortunately. Plus, Eijiro might have a dagger or something.
  - Sunwu
    
    He’s the perfect hostage and with the ambassador dead he needs at least safe passage until he gets to more friendly territory
Flaming Squirrel

In his prime? Judging by Nat’s gray hair, I’d say Genchu’s STILL younger than him.

I didn’t know there was going to be an Independence Day sequel until IGN posted the trailer on Facebook yesterday. What ticks me off is that, apparently, Will Smith’s character is dead. Not from anything cool or dramatic, either. He just crashed a fighter plane on a test flight. Killing any Will Smith character offscreen is like… like putting a Genchu swordfight in the background!
- leavescat
  
  There’s more than one way to no longer be in your prime. Genchu’s younger than Nataku unless I’m missing something, but while Nataku lost a finger, Genchu lost an arm. Basically it’s a Greil vs Black Knight situation, so Genchu should ditch the sword and find a giant battleaxe.
  - Flaming Squirrel
    
    He didn’t lose an arm. He’s been using both of them this whole time.
    - leavescat
      
      He didn’t literally lose it, but Hirotomo messed it up pretty well, to the point where he cannot wield a sword in that hand. He’s handled the switch better than Jamie Lannister, but he fights left-handed now. That’s why I mentioned the Greil situation; Greil had his sword-hand tendons severed, so he picked up a 2-handed axe, and later ends up fighting the Black Knight who was someone he dominated in his prime.
      - http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
        
        Genchu is definitely fighting with a handicap, which has been subtly hinted at, although not yet outright stated. On a side note, I love Awakening, but I’m intimidated about trying the older FE games because of the fear of permadeath!
      - leavescat
        
        Path of Radiance is one of the best if you were going to try. Permadeath can be problematic, but it’s basically just restart if anyone dies (Press X+B+Start on gamecube controller for a soft reset). I kinda like the linear style without a world map which makes it more difficult to level grind; it makes intelligently using your units for efficient exp gain more important. It’s still not difficult to become nigh-invincible in easy mode, so you shouldn’t have to restart much.
        
        And of course, if all else fails, you can solo the game with Ike. In hard mode.
      - No Name
        
        I always just restarted the battle if anyone died.
        Not exactly the… honest way of doing it, but who cares! Everyone lives.
        I also employed the strategy of gittin gud, which did wonders to improve the survivability of my characters (admittedly at the cost that I take more turns to complete a given battle, ’cause, y’know, caution).
- http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
  
  Nataku’s not that much older than Genchu, but he’s just always had white hair I guess! His colors and costume design are actually based on a traditional Japanese wall scroll image I liked back in college. I wish I still knew where that image was!
  
  Also, I didn’t realize that’s how they wrote out Smith’s character. Will Smith has becomes very egocentric, if I understand correctly, so maybe he figured an Independence Day sequel was beneath him. One wonders!
  - Leo
    
    IIRC, they found his conditions unacceptable. He asked for 50 millions or so and that his son be featured in the movie as well.
    
    So yeah, not so much that ID4 was beneath him, but egocentric nonetheless.
    - Cross Ikon
      
      At least we’ve been spared Jaden’s kind of forced acting, then. <_<
  - Xinef
    
    Now that I think about it, Nataku looks quite similar to some depictions of Sun Wukong from Journey to the West.
    
    I wonder if he’d be offended if I started to call him “nineteen-fingered monkey”.
Kid Chaos

Don’t forget to recover your sword, Genchu! 😁
- http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
  
  He should consider attaching an indestructible razor thin tether to it for retrieval and grappling purposes like Jubei from Ninja Scroll.
  - Kid Chaos
    
    Good idea…but whatever you do, don’t stop not dying! 😁
  - Rougemage Nick
    
    I was thinking he just holds out his scabbard and it just sorta falls in, because he is that kinda awesome
Justin

I’m just curious as to what happens next.

About ID4:R; In nomadic societies, it isn’t uncommon for the tribes to break apart once they get too big. Put this in a space situation and it can make even more sense.

As to them retconning the aliens, I didn’t think they actually said that. I’m going to have to rewatch the movie, but I thought they only defeated the mothership and the city destroyers. And hopefully there is either some diversity in the command structure of the aliens or the mothership was able to send a signal for the destroyers to land and get their forces on the ground.
- http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
  
  They do specifically state in the original film that the aliens go from planet to planet consuming resources. It’s implied that the mothership is essentially their mobile home world. And it’s certainly possible that they kept fighting the aliens that survived in the crashed city destroyers, although the movie seems to imply that taking out the mothership left all the aliens totally vulnerable to conventional earth weapons.
RazorD9

Tag ’em and bag ’em!
- http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
  
  I have the mental image of Genchu stoically and deliberately teabagging Nataku.
  - Xinef
    
    With an actual tea bag, because that’s how cultured he is!
Bladedwind

Nataku: “COME BACK HERE I’LL BITE YA LEGS OFF!”
Purphoros

Genchu leveled up! Genchu can now use weapon type “Punching Bag”!
- Da’Zlein
  
  Gained ability: Person toss
  +2 Strength
  +5 calmness
  - Xinef
    
    -1 Fingers debuff on enemy
http://www.fennecfoxpress.com David A. Tatum

Okay, take two: “Well, now the Wataro will know that Genchu survived.” I wonder if Ken will get the news, though…
charles81

Nataku… YOU’RE SACKED!
Hfar

Genchu: master of using whatever the f***’s available as a weapon.
Da’Zlein

The twist is that Nataku can’t swim, so Genchu is gonna have to swim out there and drag him back to land if he wants to spare him
Sam DunKley

So…Nataku isn’t so hot vs judo/improvised weapons, or Genchu’s just that good? Serious question.
- http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai
  
  Nataku was definitely expecting a sword fight, and once he disarmed Genchu, he mentally assumed he’d won the fight, and wasn’t ready for Genchu’s improvised counter throw. Also, Genchu is just that good.
dr pepper

Makes sense. As a fisher, he’s not allowed to carry a sword so he got a lot more jujitsu practice.

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