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So is Nataku technically right because it was his own blade? Or was it a Daisuke blade because it was being wielded by a Daisuke in the moment? Feel free to discuss!

This event has been a long time coming in the NN4B. Some of you predicted it, for others, maybe it was a SHOCKING TWIST! Either way, I’m very happy with how these pages turned out, it was one of my favorite fights to draw, in large part because it was a culmination of Ken’s revenge story. How Ken will feel about not landing the final blow remains to be seen, but it’d be hard to argue that Yumiko didn’t earn it.

I’ve been pretty busy lately, so I haven’t had a ton of time to watch new stuff. I have been reading the My Hero Academia manga, which is a good time. I really enjoy how relentlessly positive the story is, and how much all the characters like each other. I think about other popular shounen stuff, and most of the relationships in series like Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, etc tend to be characterized as hostile friendships. They always talk about how their friends but when we see them in their off time, they’re constantly arguing like fed up siblings. The cast of MHA is genuinely friendly with each other and enjoys working together, and it makes almost the entire cast instantly likable (well, maybe Bakugo is the counter to that statement, but he’s definitely the one exception to the rule, and I still kinda like him). At some point I will catch up on the anime, in large part because it has such a killer good soundtrack.

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  • Slograman

    Never monologue before the job’s done. It is known, Nataku.

    And don’t wear capes.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      I mean he was literally JUST telling everyone he was sooo smart!

      • Agent 52

        It’s a trope. Person claims to be stronger than everyone else and is immediately defeated. Basically the more you brag the bigger the defeat.

    • Kid Chaos

      “You sly dog! You got me monologuing!” 😜

    • Brandenfascher

      But who would he monologue to when the job is done? Everyone would be dead!

      • Slograman

        It would be a very private eulogy. And Nataku can say EXACTLY how he feels about the deceased!

        • Brandenfascher

          Ah, that makes sense. It would be a very fitting way to cement Nataku as a madman, too.

      • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

        I think that’s a soliloquy.

  • leavescat

    Like seriously, he thought that wound would instantly incapacitate her? It might not even be lethal!

    • andrew

      That low in the abdomen? That’s through at least one loop of the small intestine, spilling it’s contents all over the intestinal cavity. Peritonitis is 100% fatal before the advent of penicillin and other antibiotics.

      • leavescat

        Depends on how deep the cut is. Perhaps she deflected it with her abs.

        • andrew

          No more unrealistic than that ridiculous sword whats-his-nose was packing around for the longest time…

        • cu

          I think the technical term is “perforating stab wound”. You can see the sword exits through her back in 754, she was thoroughly skewered.

          So that would be one heck of a deflection, abs capable of curving the sword all around her waist. But these are highly trained ninjas, you never know. Who’s to say there isn’t an advanced technique called “the heavenly steel crane neck” that achieves exactly that effect?

          • leavescat

            I mean, the spray of blood kinda conceals how deep the sword went.

      • purplelibraryguy

        Probably, but it could have just happened to miss those loops. People (well, one person I’ve heard about) have taken crossbow bolts straight through the skull, front to back, and not suffered any apparent brain damage.

        • andrew

          The small intestine is packed in pretty tightly. Not much room to miss…

          But this is a borderline fantasy comic, so who knows?

  • Kid Chaos

    Well, he was half right. 💀

    • Wanderer

      Technically it looks more like he’s getting it through a lung, but who am I to nitpick biology? (Everyone tends to forget that for the most part the heart is in the middle of the chest, just one part of it leans off to the side.)

      • SKy

        Just means he now slowly drowns on his own blood.

        • Wanderer

          Can’t think of anyone who deserves that fate more. Maybe with the good guys cooly staring at down at Nine Finger Nataku as he tries to protest that he’s not weak as his body starts shutting down.

  • Arkone Axon

    The best part? He GAVE her the sword…

    • Brandenfascher

      And apparently it’s a really good point, too.

  • Sunwu

    Nataku: fool! no man from the Daisuke clan could kill ever kill me!!!!!

    Yumiko: I AM NO MAN!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNL9oljAFqM

    • Kid Chaos

      Good one! 😎

    • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

      That’s my girl. God, I love that scene.

      • Nos Rin aka CTCO

        Definitely one of the best scenes in the trilogy!

    • Nos Rin aka CTCO

      YESSS!!!!!

    • purplelibraryguy

      Another cool thing about that bit is Tolkien got the “no man” TWICE. A hobbit got the assist, also no man. Apparently it was all because he thought Macbeth’s prophecy was a cop-out, so he was totally schooling Shakespeare in how it’s done.
      (Also the ents whacking Isengard was partly because he thought Macbeth’s “Till Burnam Wood comes to Dunsinane” being fulfilled with some measly branches was lame, so he was like “OK, the wood’s REALLY going to come and take this place down!”)

      • animalia555

        With him on the first, not so much the second

      • animalia555

        Speaking of prophecy twists. Rememer how in Mistborn everyone thought that a certain laguage’s prophecy being gender neutral meant it could apply to either male or female when in actuality it applied to a eunach?

  • Glotos

    Bet he looted it from a Daisuke.

    • Turul

      I want to upvote this twice.

  • Ladon

    Ok, but with wording that specific he was practically screaming “I really wanna get stabbed in the heart by a Daisuke!” Like, there’s tempting fate, and then there’s paying it a couple Benjamin’s to fuck you hard. That’s what Nataku was doing here.

  • PSadlon

    I have a few guesses of the last things going through his mind right now. Most involve cursing.

  • PSadlon

    Just to twist the knife as far as Nataku is concerned.
    http://performancesalesandtraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Weakest-link.jpg

  • Merlin

    What was that you were saying about “losing focus,” Nataku? This is quite poetic, really, having the literal backstabber literally stabbed in the back with his own blade.

    • Kid Chaos

      This is the second time Nataku’s gone out of his way to beat up Ken.
      The first time, he lost face because Cho outmaneuvered him. This time, he lost his life. 💀

  • Xenocide

    Yay, the Terrible Influence on everyone on his own side is dealt with!

    And also he admitted to having Hirotomo’s wife killed… But I’m not optimistic enough to think Hirotomo would just believe that if our heroes told him.

    • Milamber33

      There’s at least a possibility that someone important enough to be believed was in hearing range.

    • Xinef

      But… Ken can convince a certain kabuki director to update his play with the new information…

      No-one will be able to question the truth once they see it in the theaters!

    • clogboy

      Hirotomo places more faith in Yori than we know. He survived the DoS, be it with help in the end, but it can’t be said he achieved nothing else. What he has are the makings of an heir: battle experience, diplomatic relations to other clans, loyal warriors. He’s the next gen. Yori has what Hiro had, and what’s now lost in the crucible of history. Most of all, if he pulls the kidnapping off, he has leverage. He is literally (the custodian of) the future of the Wataro clan.

  • Breakfast

    There is one remaining question to be answered though:

    Will Yumiko survive her sword through the gut? Those kinds of wounds don’t tend to heal easily, not even with modern medicine.

    • Countzero

      The sword hit her on the side so it is likely that no organs were damaged.

      • cu

        Well, if Nataku has a heart, Yumiko must surely have intestines, which is what you would find around that area in an average human being. Unless plot anatomy applies, that is.

        • cu

          Also, there’s a very good chance that Yumiko missed Nataku’s heart, so maybe our favorite general is technically right.

          “Hahaha! In a true Daisuke move, you missed my heart! Got my lung, though, but meh, I have another.” SFX: LUNGED!

          • leavescat

            Well, as shown in the picture, the heart is actually in the center of the body as opposed to hanging out under the left nipple like pop culture says it does. However, it does lean pretty heavily to the left side, and you’ll probably want to aim a bit off-center for a backstab so you won’t hit the spine.

        • Slograman

          Comic book anatomy is famously questionable in women. Her lithe figure couldn’t possibly house a traditional configuration of the innards. I’m guessing that most organs are packed tightly in the, um, chestial region. Scientific term, that.

        • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

          I felt better about her survival chances before I saw this anatomy chart. I wonder if medieval Japanese surgery is up to saving her. Although, weren’t all those non-fatal stabbings in “Hero” in about the same area? That gives me hope. And a reason to watch it again (like I need a reason).

          • andrew

            It’s less about surgery than about antibiotics now. Peritonitis is 100% lethal before the advent of modern antibiotics.

          • cu

            Yup, but good-side ninjas can do this ancient technique where they reposition their small intestine so a piercing blade passes through the interstices without rupturing it. Nothing a bit of acupuncture and a one night sleep cannot fix.

          • andrew

            Fair point. This is an (at least borderline) fantasy comic, after all.

          • Xinef

            Last time I checked, they had medics capable of healing quite nasty things…
            http://nn4b.com/comic/322
            http://nn4b.com/comic/552

            Not to mention, they DO have access to modern antibiotics if needed.

            http://nn4b.com/comic/153

          • leavescat

            Matrix was instructed to not directly save the life of Yori and his friends… but she could probably rationalize that Yumiko isn’t Yori’s friend.

          • Xinef

            Right… I had to double check what was the last deal between Matrix and Lex and you’re right.
            And indeed Yumiko falls nicely into the loophole – something I would imagine Matrix would be willing to use. After all, Yumiko is an ally of sorts and might be helpful later, yet I don’t recall her having too many direct interactions with Yori.

            By the way, Lex has very few appearances in the story so far. We need to see him more often… I wonder if they’re watching the battlefield.

          • leavescat

            Saving Yumiko is exactly the kind of line-toeing that Matrix loves to do, and it’d also be an excuse for Lex to start doing some countermeasures of his own.

    • leavescat

      It’s hard to say how deep the cut is. She’s got a lot of muscle there and the sword was thrown, so it might be enough to keep it from cutting something really important. On the other hand, she’s bleeding a lot, and the heroics she just did doesn’t help that. This is an age before blood transfusions, so if she’s going to live she needs immediate first aid and to get carried off the battlefield.

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  • Hfar

    Last panel: “I said ‘Sneak attack!’ bitch!”

  • cu

    My name is Yorikinigo Montoya. You killed my mother. Prepare to… daaaaaaaang, Yumiko!

    • Turul

      My name is Yumiko Daisuke. You killed my mother. And father. And Ken’s father. And mother. And everybody else in our — Hey! Hey, I’m not done talking to you!

  • Skralin

    So this is sort of embarrassing but I actually really like Bakugou. I like how the traditional flaw of ambition, is instead transformed into a virtue by his character. Yeah he’s an asshole, but he’s an honest asshole who aims for, and works really goddamned hard to get to, the top of the hero world. And he has a solid core of morals and a strong personal identity as seen in MHA where he refuses to join the villains. All in all he’s a fun character and probably my favorite in MHA.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      I like Bakugo. He’s definitely not my favorite. In fact, Deku is my favorite, easily. He’s just so easy to root for, always the underdog!

  • Dshim

    LOOKS LIKE NO DAISUKE BLADE WILL BE PIERCING MY HEART TODAY
    OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU
    NANI?

  • KencingFendoka

    A truly heartfelt moment between warring clans.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      oh, I get it!

  • AmberOne

    S’cuse me, but is no one going to address the fact that Nataku had Yori’s mom killed? Or that since this comic predates cellphones and stuff, there is now no proof that he did so? Eh, take the wins where you can I guess. SUCK IT NATAKU!!!

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      Yeah, there is definitely a lack of evidence to back up Nataku’s claims. But no one liked that guy anyway, so it’s a pretty easy claim to believe.

  • Turul

    Don’t tempt fate, Nataku. Fate is awfully bad at resisting temptation.

  • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

    That’s my girl. I really hope she lives.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      I dare not speak of the future!

      • cu

        Its will is what shall be.

  • Nos Rin aka CTCO

    “You lost focus.” *gets stabbed by someone he thought he killed, in a manner he literally just said”
    IRONY!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nos Rin aka CTCO

    you’ve given me another reason to groan about not having watched my hero academia yet.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      Just watch what you want! There is no lack of great media out there to ingest!

      • Nos Rin aka CTCO

        I just meant I have a list I need to get through and life is so… distracting.

  • Tim “Azur3flame” Eldred

    I felt like the death of Honou-ko was kind of hollow. That said, the death of Nataku has now more than made up for it. They forced him into a corner, he got even more overconfident and arrogant than usual, and they managed to fuck his shit up in spite of that brutal beating. He even prattled on the confession that he 100% engineered a clan war. I LOVE IT <3 <3 <3

  • WaytoomanyUIDs

    Well, it wasn’t a Daisuke blade….

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      Could’ve been, the Daisuke clan was known for its blades!

  • andrew

    I didn’t exactly predict it, but it was among the various possibilities.

    Nataku apparently forgot that just because abdominal wounds were invariably fatal in this time period, they were not necessarily immediately incapacitating…

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      He was very ‘in the moment’.

    • leavescat

      He’s also very trusting in the damage a thrown katana deals. Who knows, maybe they’ve got ninja-penicillin?

      • andrew

        Ninja-cillin! 😀

      • SKy

        They have Matrix with the license to meddle.

  • Crestlinger

    Good, now decapitate him quick enough and he’ll see his own body lying there before ending.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      Yeah, there’s only a small window of opportunity here!

  • Xinef

    Technically speaking, she’s not stealing the kill from Ken… she did the most damage to Nataku while Ken was… tanking? Let’s keep it at that.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      I’m sure that’s how Ken will describe it!

  • animalia555

    I originally intended to only read the comments. But since my phone made me agree to the terms of service in order to even read them I have to ask, is anyone else Disturbed by the Disqus new terms of service?

    • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

      The terms go on forever, but I didn’t see anywhere I signed away the rights to one of any organ I have two of. What did you see that was disturbing? Just wondering.

      • animalia555

        The whole thing where any disputes must be settled by single person arbitration. As in you can’t do lawsuits which mean you can’t appeal a decision or plaintiffs can’t even file for joint arbitration which at least gives puts them on equal footing with companies in disputes. Basically it’s a way to take all bargaining power away from the customer.

        It’s possible that this was always there and I just didn’t read it but in light of recent Supreme Court decisions I decided to be more careful about this kind of stuff. And try to read these things more carefully in the future.

        • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

          I did see the thing about arbitration, and I wondered what they were worried about. I hate arbitration clauses; they’re evil, like Nataku.

  • animalia555

    @The Suburban Samurai I know you like Brandon Sanderson, and while this is part speculation. (In fact I just had this thought today) But given the recent reveals in Oathbringer, plus the fact that Brandon said what he writes is in part a reaction to what has come before him. I have to wonder if the Kholins are a reaction to the Lannisters from A Song Of Ice And Fire.

    SPOILERS FOR BOTH BOOK SERIES BELOW

    I know it sounds crazy but here me out. JUST on what we know so far we have Dalinar as the angry father figure who has a tragic reaction to the loss of his wife. (Though in this case he caused it) He had on son who was seen as the “golden boy” and one who didn’t quite fit in. Though he doesn’t have a daughter if we keep in mind that Jasnah is a member of the Kholins as well (and I suspect the family dynamic in this case will also eventually expand to tell us more about Navani and Galivar as well) she could in some ways be a reaction to Cersei, a woman who struggles with her defined place in the world. For extra points she even comes close to killing Renarin for fear of what he might do. Shades of the Volanquar? Of course where they shine is their differences. No fear of what MIGHT happen again is enough to drive Jasnah to kill Renarin (now that Dalinar and Navani are married I guess that makes him her step brother, that kind of makes the parallel even better now that I think of it). Dalinar, even at his WORST never actually hated his kids though he came pretty damn close or verbally blamed Renarin for the for the loss of his wife though he came close at one point. Speaking of another way Dalinar differs is that though, again as a result of Renarin he desires to better and change himself and he actively seeks out the Nightwatcher, he trys to be a better parent etc. Basically there is dysfunction, yes, but there is also a desire to do good by each other, and be better people. Basically it’s the character flaws (I am guessing) the Lannisters crossed with the honor of Starks.

    I can continue on with possible speculation on what he might have planned for the future here. In fact one of the reasons I like this theory is how it matches up with a previous theory I had.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      Yeah, Sanderson may be influenced by Martin. But at the same time, a lot of these themes and character arcs fit pretty naturally into a story that emphasizes a conflicted family dynamic, and the Kholins clearly are not the Lannisters when it comes to callousness and cruelty. Mixed with Stark honor, perhaps. The world of Stormlight Archives is also so wildly different from ASOIAF. The character parallels are definitely there, just probably not an intentional parallel, since the overall works are so different in tone and world setting, and also outcome (at least so far). For a while I couldn’t help but notice that the Wataros shared a lot in common with the Lannisters, and that was never intentional!

      • animalia555

        Fair enough. The tone is DEFINITELY differently by intention. Even the story that has a near apocalyptic ending is ultimately hopeful.

      • animalia555

        To be fair. I was originally thinking of a mainly Ying Yang thing of how Dalinar and Renarin work thematically. For starters Dalinar was influenced by Odium, on the other hand Renarin’s spren was influenced by him. Then there’s the part about where Truthwatchers and Bondsmiths sit on the doubleeye. They seem opposed to each other at first. Bondsmiths the ones closest to Honor, Truthwatchers closest to Cultivation. But the way the double eye indents brings them really close together. I suspect that the purpose of Truthwatchers is to keep Bondsmiths honest.

        Basically the more I thought about things the more I began to wonder if Renarin the Son who in many ways seemed least like Dalinar at first was actually the most like him. I mean one thing that is consistent about Dalinar’s character is the quest for truth. He’s always questioning why something is this way or that way. Even in that rage where he slaughtered a lot of people and lead up to him coming close to killing his brother he wondered what was wrong with him that he wasn’t satisfied by challenging a single worthy opponent any more. That he ended up seeking out huge groups of people to fight instead.

        Renarin has been confirmed by word of god to be on the Autistic spectrum though where exactly he is on it exactly hasn’t been pinned down yet. As someone who Asperger’s Syndrome which is now considered part of the Autism spectrum, I can tell you that characterics that Asperger’s, at least has. Is that because of the logical and literal ways our minds work at times we don’t see the point in pretending reality is any way other then what is.
        And we often have trouble imagining why others would either. Combined with the fact that a LOT of social convention come across as arbitrary to us and we really have problems learning social skills, and a can say stuff that is inappropriate for the social situation. That being said while may not always notice someone’s pain. When we do notice someone’s pain apparently research has shown that people on the Austitic scale can actually be MORE empathic towards people and the lower social inhibitions may make it easier to reach out to someone. For example Renarin didn’t think about the Parsh member of bridge 4 at first once it was pointed out to him that the said member must be going through a lot of pain, he went right over to him.

        I know that was a bit rambling, but bare with me I needed to establish some background for what autism, (or at least Asperger’s the form I have) is like. Because it’s my first hand experience that led to the next part of the speculation. Including the possible Lannister parallels.

        Something I have trouble with, but am working on his holding my tongue. Learning when it’s ok to push an issue and when to let go of it. I have even phrased things in a way I meant to be helpful and was accidentally insulting, even among people who know me well.

        Basically this led me to wonder if Renarin used to be more outspoken

  • Ocean Burning.

    YESSSSSS FINALLY

  • MacDiver

    How polite. She returned his sword to him. Remember, etiquette is important in all aspects in life. Especially in revenge.

  • clogboy

    DAISUKE EX MACHINA! DAISUKE EX MACHINA!

  • Spood Beest

    He was right, regardless of whether the sword counts as his or hers. It instead pierced his left lung, missing his heart by at least an inch. Not that a punctured lung isn’t a fatal wound in that era.

  • Warcodered

    Hey…you dropped this.

  • reynard61

    You were saying? (Before that Daisuke blade was so rudely thrust through your cold, shriveled whatever-that-thing-was-that-passed-for-your-heart…)

  • Mike Sanders

    Technically, it appears a Daisuke blade has not, in fact, pierced his heart. Looks more like the lung. Still totally dead, though.

    • Turul

      But he can die with the satisfaction of being right!

    • animalia555

      Wasn’t that Nataku’s OWN blade that pierced him?

  • SlugFiller

    What an oddly specific thing to say won’t happen. Especially since Ken was aiming to cleave him in half, not stab him in the heart.

  • Kyo-Rai Kogen

    So…I found this comic waaaaaaaaay back when there was copious amounts of wordage on the pages crowding out the art and making it hard to tell what was going on. Or was that the art itself? (Anytime someone says their art stinks or is no good, I look them in the eye and say two words: Jackson Pollock *mic drop and walk away*) I got up to one of the scenes in the ninja cave, can’t remember exactly which one it was. It was after Yori killed the First Demon of Sorrow, because I remember that page. Then I lost contact…I think there was a hiatus? Or I lost interest? I honestly don’t remember. But I was away for years I suppose. Then a month ago I thought of this comic, googled it, read through the first few pages and was confused: “These are not the droids you’re looking for.” Oops, wrong quote: “This isn’t what I remember Ina saying the last time I read this page…” Then through reading the artist’s descriptions / reader comments (the comments are almost as fun as the comic itself) I found out you guys did some white washing. I mean editing. Yeah, editing… Ahem. So, now I’m all caught up and it sucks. Big hairy monkey balls covered in feces and urine….sucks…

    NOW I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT INSTEAD OF JUST CLICKING “NEXT”!!!!!!!! Why is life so unfair?!?!?!?! We live in a “NOW” culture, where is the NOW comic?!?! It’s totally not like you have a life to live and bills to pay!!! NEW PAGE!!! NEW PAGE!!! NEW PAGE!!!

    By the by, hilarious comic. Keep up the awesomeness. It’s great. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Or maybe that’s just blood…

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      I’m glad you found the comic again!

  • IDPounder

    Although you could see this coming once Yumiko showed up, I must confess to being disappointed. I was enjoying Ken’s “coming of age” as he now fought Nataku as a more or less equal, rather than Nataku taking advantage of his drunken ragings and cumbersome sword. Now we’ll never really know how that went, unless there’s a NN4B edition of “What If?!” someday.

    • http://www.nn4b.com suburban_samurai

      remind me about this the next scene we see Ken in! We do have an answer to address this.

  • Avarice

    That is one delicious midriff.

  • Opal Eyes

    One death I cried for, and one death I cheered for, all in one day. Came here, from Far to the North.

  • Stewart

    Damn, I think we might be getting towards the end of the story. Nataku was one of the major driving forces in the conflict, the four are all dead, and Hirotomo is the only major villain left.

  • http://rjthorwip.blogspot.com/ Redundant Jovian Thor

    Encore! Encore! KILL HIM AGAIN!!!!!

    • http://rjthorwip.blogspot.com/ Redundant Jovian Thor

      Who’s up for drinks? On Cho!

      • http://www.comicsagonistes.hackenbush.org/ Ginger Mayerson

        Oh dear…

  • clogboy

    Not gunna lie… I was hoping Ken would pull the arrow from Nataku’s arm, and jab him in the eye with it. But then, this arrow thing hasn’t been set up enough to become a Chekhov’s Gun.

  • clogboy

    OK so how about Final Space, this cartoon comedy space saga about love and sacrifice? It’s bordering between Rick & Morty, Futurama, 2001: ASO and Passengers, it is for kids but has some gore and doesn’t really pull any punches. For the most part it’s one predictable cliché after the next without too many dramatic twists, but is also very bingable, and in the process makes you feel involved in the characters just enough to care about the ending.
    Definitely worth 3.5 stars in my book. I mean, Voltron or Avatar would blow this out of the water more often than not, but Final Space has a more consistent production quality and linear story where every episode tells a chapter in which everything pertains to the main arc.

  • spas

    I have long lost track of some of the characters, so I will need to re-read everything to understand this climactic moment in any way. Off topic/feels-on-topic, Ant Man and the Wasp was a super amazing sequel, but it still felt like a sequel. Not enough Luis/Pena going off on long random stories before getting to the point, not enough time with the daughter (Cassie), no explanation from Scott on why he didn’t invite Hope when Cap called (this feels almost like a plot hole) – that is to say, the final cut must be leaving out critical scenes that would make the film a much better watch. I hope the full director’s version or some such is released by the studio. There were some fine moments – the Rally case, the building case, the Hannah John-Kamen casting, the EXCONS taking a bow over wrapping up (brilliant) Goggins and his crew with a ribbon made of their own serum. This, in turn, showcases how Scott/Rudd’s teams are so vital to the comic relief, which was a little lacking in this one.

  • Astralfury

    It’s like every one of the readers all cried out “fuckin’ called it” at once.

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